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Tuesday, 21 July 2026

“Second only to Fable 5:” Alibaba talks the talk with Qwen3.8 without providing any real data

The New Stack 1 month ago 16 7 sources

Alibaba announced Qwen 3.8, a 2.4 trillion-parameter language model it claims is second only to Anthropic's Fable 5, but provided no benchmarks, model card, or technical details to support the claim. The announcement came days after rival Moonshot released Kimi K3 with full benchmarks, architecture details, and a July 27 open-weight release date, while Alibaba only said the weights would be released "soon" with no timeline. The vague announcement appears designed to capture headlines and compete with Moonshot without publishing verifiable data that could contradict Alibaba's ranking claims or complicate its substantial investment in Moonshot.

[AINews] not much happened today

Latent Space 1 month ago 40 33 sources

Alibaba announced that Qwen 3.8 Max (2.4T parameters) will be released as open-weight, and Kimi K3 (2.8T parameters) emerged as a strong open-weight contender, ranking #1 on Frontend Web App Arena with 1326 Elo and #4 on agentic tasks. The U.S. administration is considering layered policy measures against Chinese open models, while technical voices argue that restricting open models hurts competition and security more than it helps. Model routing, world modeling for agents, and long-horizon reliability are becoming first-class infrastructure problems, with frontier models now demonstrating superhuman performance on mathematical tasks like finding a counterexample to the 3D Jacobian conjecture.

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