“Second only to Fable 5:” Alibaba talks the talk with Qwen3.8 without providing any real data
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Alibaba announced Qwen 3.8, a 2.4 trillion-parameter language model it claims is second only to Anthropic's Fable 5, but provided no benchmarks, model card, or technical details to support the claim. The announcement came days after rival Moonshot released Kimi K3 with full benchmarks, architecture details, and a July 27 open-weight release date, while Alibaba only said the weights would be released "soon" with no timeline. The vague announcement appears designed to capture headlines and compete with Moonshot without publishing verifiable data that could contradict Alibaba's ranking claims or complicate its substantial investment in Moonshot.
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Alibaba has revealed Qwen 3.8, its latest, greatest large language model (LLM) which, it says, is among the most powerful The post “Second only to Fable 5:” Alibaba talks the talk with Qwen3.8 without providing any real data appeared first on The New Stack.
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